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Hi. You are calling for help. Can you let us know what kind of help you need? It sounds like you are hurting. Please give the Newsgroup a chance. There is help here. Kathy
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13942 Alderton Road, North Silver Spring Maryland, 20906 writes: Please help me
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Laura: You’re probably remembering the media coverage of Dr. Lendon Smith (I hope I have the name right!) who was a very entertaining and therefore very highly televised pediatrician but very off the mark in terms of ADD. Smith wrote a number of books, most still in libraries I bet, with titles like "Improving Your Child’s Behavior Chemistry" or such – espousing intensive control of children’s nutritional intake. The idea was that many <most? behavior problems with children, esp what was then called simply "hyperactivity" were really forms a food allergies and could be treated by avoidance of the foods involved. The biggest focus as I remember was on sugar intake – too much sugar makes kids hyper, so take all "hyper" kids off all sugars…etc. Add in possible reactions to various additives… The problem with all of this is that it doesn’t work! Studies at the time showed that the apparent improvements with "some" children was more likely due to the child’s positive reaction to the intensive parental attention needed to maintain these astonishingly rigid diets. And I’d suggest that it also had a lot to do with removing the "Johnnie is a bad boy" attitude and replacing it with "Processed foods cause bad behavior" message. (Note the comments in Driven to Distraction by Hallowell and Ratey on "naming" as the beginning of treatment.) Anyhow… a while back … maybe ten years or so, this was the hottest topic on the talk show circuit. Numerous studies were done and as far as I know, none confirmed that this nutrition therapy was effective treatment. Hope this helps… …Christina
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Laura: You’re probably remembering the media coverage of Dr. Lendon Smith (I hope I have the name right!) who was a very entertaining and therefore very highly televised pediatrician but very off the mark in terms of ADD. Smith wrote a number of books, most still in libraries I bet, with titles like "Improving Your Child’s Behavior Chemistry" or such – espousing intensive control of children’s nutritional intake. The idea was that many <most? behavior problems with children, esp what was then called simply "hyperactivity" were really forms a food allergies and could be treated by avoidance of the foods involved. The biggest focus as I remember was on sugar intake – too much sugar makes kids hyper, so take all "hyper" kids off all sugars…etc. Add in possible reactions to various additives… The problem with all of this is that it doesn’t work! Studies at the time showed that the apparent improvements with "some" children was more likely due to the child’s positive reaction to the intensive parental attention needed to maintain these astonishingly rigid diets. And I’d suggest that it also had a lot to do with removing the "Johnnie is a bad boy" attitude and replacing it with "Processed foods cause bad behavior" message. (Note the comments in Driven to Distraction by Hallowell and Ratey on "naming" as the beginning of treatment.)
I don’t know how it works in the US but here in Australia the major way they differenciate between ADD and straight hyperactivity is the process you discribe, they take you off all cafine, food additives, processed sugars and anything that is seen as a stimulant. If your behaviour gets better, ie the symptoms of hyperactive behaviour disappear then you are classed as hyperactive, if the behaviour gets worse you are classified as ADD (note the number of people on this section of the net who consume huge amounts of caffine to remain sane). I don’t know what the general medical attitude in the US is but it works here. Hyperactivity here is generally listed as an overraction by the body to stimulants. Anyhow… a while back … maybe ten years or so, this was the hottest topic on the talk show circuit. Numerous studies were done and as far as I know, none confirmed that this nutrition therapy was effective treatment. Hope this helps… …Christina
I hope that this makes it a little clearer. The research that the Australian medical community is working off was done in Canada and the UK it was rejected by the US medical community for some strange reason. Esther
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WOW…. A group for an affliction that does not really exist!!!! Cool… Nobody had ADD, it is a mde up problem and the doctors and pharmacies are making a fortune off you guys… . . If we were not meant to eat animals why are they made out of meat…?
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WOW…. A group for an affliction that does not really exist!!!! Cool… Nobody had ADD, it is a mde up problem and the doctors and pharmacies are making a fortune off you guys… . . If we were not meant to eat animals why are they made out of meat…?
Live my life for one day and then say if it doesn’t exist. Total cost per month for ADD: Therapy: $20 Neruology: $10 Ritalin: $20 Total cost: $50 Against what I was paying before I was diagnoised $40 a month for therapy That’s a $10 difference, I think I can afford the $10 a month so I will never be as miserable as I was before I was diagnosed. Lara
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WOW…. A group for an affliction that does not really exist!!!! Cool… Nobody had ADD, it is a mde up problem and the doctors and pharmacies are making a fortune off you guys…
If you are serious, then watch out: The party-liners are going to go after you in a big way. They will cancel your posts as they have done with mine and Dr. Frager’s, and they will send you threatening e-mail. I am crossposting my reply to alt.support.attn-deficit.doesnt-exist since it fits in so well. — YOU LIVE IN A RIGHT-WING DICTATORSHIP — REVOLT! Stop metric imperialism! Smash the radio monopolies!
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Grow up. Sharon
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WOW…. A group for an affliction that does not really exist!!!! Cool… Nobody had ADD, it is a mde up problem and the doctors and pharmacies are making a fortune off you guys… If you are serious, then watch out: The party-liners are going to go after you in a big way. They will cancel your posts as they have done with mine and Dr. Frager’s, and they will send you threatening e-mail.
I don’t agree with your opinions. I don’t usually respond to this kind of post, but I’m experiencing a moment of madness so here goes. A quote for the unbelievers(if you "get it" fine, if you don’t – well… it would explain alot): "God is dead!" -Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead." -GOD VERY SINCERELY, Mother of an ADHD; ritalin, pamelor, trazadone taking; gifted with IQ 130; absolutly fantastically, wonderfully, loving, creative, and imaginative, kid!
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WOW…. A group for an affliction that does not really exist!!!! Cool… Nobody had ADD, it is a mde up problem and the doctors and pharmacies are making a fortune off you guys…
Hmmm, then how come I’m so much richer now that I’m giving my doctor and pharmacist all that money? — Jaelle
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Channel 4 had a 5 min interview on this new prod called Kid’s Plex supposed to be a natural alternative to Ritalin. Very impressive.
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maman) writes: Channel 4 had a 5 min interview on this new prod called Kid’s Plex supposed to be a natural alternative to Ritalin. Very impressive.
Which channel 4? Mark S. Probert Merrick, New York
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Channel 4 had a 5 min interview on this new prod called Kid’s Plex supposed to be a natural alternative to Ritalin. Very impressive.
uh huh….. is there a non-biased non-sales source of information on this?
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I can only speak from personal experience, and that has been most of what current educators receive in the form of on going training is covered by union contracts. Therefore you can just demand that they attend this or that training. Sure many educators are going out of their way to attend training on ADD, but many, many more need much more than the onr time, one hour program. The Depart of Education has detailed information on several pilot ADD Inservice programs around the country. Most of these are very intensive, ie. 12+ hours at least. Additionally our chapter started an inservice committee. We use the CH.A.D.D. inservice curriculum. We invite our members to invite us to speak with their principals, teachers, etc. Then we work with the school to schedule the time and place. These have ranged from a "quickie" =) 15 min w/ the principal, to the most common 45minute for educators and the full 3 hour program from district wide programs, PTA, etc. Over the past several years we have put on about twenty different programs. Depending on the audience, we use trained parents, or members of our Professional Advisor Committee. The demand usually exceeds our ability to provide the help. It’s been a very good response from our Snohomish Co., Washington educators. Richard Dandridge Television Equipment Operator, Lead Classroom Services, T-291A 357175 543-6729, fax # 543-0531 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-3090 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you go about getting school districts to run programs for the teachers so they better understand how to deal with ADD kids. — Joe Izzo
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Ask the principal at your local school. Ask other parents at the school who may also have ADD students. Keep asking. Be persistent. Be assertive. Don’t give up. Speaking as a parent with two ADD children, this method has been much more effective than asking the school district’s administration office, which usually ignored us. Good luck. Paul Nufer, ADDult in Kalamazoo, MI
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What I did was compile a bunch (o.k. a stack) of current information that I got on the net (mostly from the CHADD homepage and links). I made copies in triplicate and gave a copy to each of the people I felt needed it to help my son. This was all before the recent LD testing and IEP stuff. I made sure when I gave them to his teacher, his social counselor and 1 extra for a file folder somewhere, that I said "I believe you are a great teacher. I am not giving this info to you because I feel you don’t know about ADD/ADHD. I am giving this info. to you because there are always new methods etc. for dealing with and teaching children with this disorder. I want you to have the most recent information. Please work with me to provide TC with the best learning situation." She accepted the info. with open arms and teases me to this day about "the stack" that I brought her to read……and she did. She is working with us actually today to introduce his new teacher, find out what text books he’ll have (so I can order tapes from RFBD) and other behavioral stratagies. When they asked me what kind of teacher I felt was best, I said "One that makes him feel emotionally safe" He can’t focus to learn if he is worried about other things. Anyhow’s what happened with "the stack" is that it got taken into the staff meetings and the social counselor *made* them review the info. and distributed what the teachers felt would help them understand children in their classes too. Good luck, Kariena
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While I agree with the comments already stated, my personal experience in raising an ADD daughter has been to at least be sure to meet with her teachers and discuss my concerns with them. I keep a notebook of info gleaned from the internet about ADD and offer it to them to read at the beginning of the school year so they better understand what we are dealing with. For any who are difficult, I also have a copy of Dr. Joseph C. LaVoie’s outstanding PBS program "FAT City Workshop" (where FAT stands for Frustration, Anxiety, and Tension). In it, Dr. LaVoie makes VERY clear the problems of learning disabled children and the failures of many teachers to handle them properly. It’s the finest resource I’ve found to persuade the difficult. By the way, he makes the viewers experience learning disability first hand by simulating the problems for them. Even parents of non-LD kids I know have watched the tape and loved the teaching techniques it has — if you want to understand what your child is enduring, get this tape. I first got it through my local CHADD chapter, and you probably could, too. Good luck in your efforts. Just remember that the entire educational system is a bit too large to overhaul, but reason and caring can be useful tools to reach the individual teachers your child encounters. If enough concerned parents do that, the system will follow.
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I really believe that it would take an act of God… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you go about getting school districts to run programs for the teachers so they better understand how to deal with ADD kids. — Joe Izzo
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My eight year old is about to go through a battery of test to see if he has Attention Deficet Disorder (ADD). Is there anyone out there that could tell me what to expect?
In great detail — but a better place to ask is alt.support.attn-deficit Not that you shouldn’t crosspost — despite the abuses of crossposting, a question about ADD kids is entirely appropriate for both misc.kids and asa-d (but probably not mkh). The most important part of the testing involves getting a history from everyone who spends much time with him. Obviously, his parents; also teachers, neighbors who see him a lot, other relatives, etc. It can be pretty important to get input on more than one context because the hallmark of ADD is inconsistency and a comparison of his response to different environments is very helpful. He may also take some in-the-office tests. Some of these use observation, pencil, and paper; they suffer from the stress- induced focus that often accompanies a novel situation. Newer ones such as the TOVA use semirandom computer-generated stimuli and are somewhat more reliable. Some practitioners use EEG monitoring of the subject, but these tests are controversial. One thing for sure: whether your son has ADD or not, the fact that you have to have him tested suggests that you need to adopt a more studied approach to parenting. In many cases this is all that is needed; in others additional modalities such as counseling and medication are necessary for him to get the best results. (And it’s really for HIM, now isn’t it?) — D. C. & M. V. Sessions http://www.primenet.com/~sessions under construction
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How do you go about getting school districts to run programs for the teachers so they better understand how to deal with ADD kids. — Joe Izzo
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If anyone wants an Australian input on possible ways to alleviate the problem. Contact us by email. Cheers, Jim — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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Like what? Eucalyptus oil? Goanna grease? Vegemite? If you are here trying to flog off some scam involving natural remedies or new age behavioural modification, I think I had better tell you straight away – it doesn’t work, and it won’t work here at this group. On the other hand, if your input is genuinely productive and helpful then welcome 
Kinda tired of trolls and spammers at this ng now. Cheers jAm
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Understand your frustration. I’ll get to the point. We market a PC product for significantly reducing biological stress from screen based radiation. We have our own market and we do not need to advertise as most of our business is word of mouth. A number of our clients have ADD afflicted children and have remarked that their son/daughter has improved somewhat as a result of conditioning the AC power (to which the PC is connected). If you want more dialgogue, I am happy to participate. Cheers, Jim — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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Well, I don’t want to be rude BUT GO AWAY!!! This is a support group, not a marketplace!
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My AC power is conditioned as all Hell–among other things I sell power conditioning equipment, and anybody who follows any of several newsgroups knows about the melt-down I went through last week. Can’t imagine any "power conditioning" gadget doing anything for a CRT that the myriad adjustments available with a G200 and a SuperScan 753 can’t match or exceed. As for the "biological stress from screen-based radiation" I thought that that old canard had gone out when every country in the civilized world adopted strict standards for radiation emission from CRTs. I’m amazed that anybody can still sell it. — — — John Reply to jclarke at eye bee em dot net
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My AC power is conditioned as all Hell– …
[snip] Can’t imagine any "power conditioning" gadget doing anything for a CRT that the myriad adjustments available with a G200 and a SuperScan 753 can’t match or exceed. As for the "biological stress from screen-based radiation" I thought that that old canard had gone out when every country in the civilized world adopted strict standards for radiation emission from CRTs. I’m amazed that anybody can still sell it.
[snip] " … Our chief weapon is suprise — surprise and fear — fear and surprise — Our two weapons are fear and surprise — and ruthless efficiency … " Paraphrased from http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/TheSpanishInquisitionSketch — Martin G. Diehl I am what I am. All opinions expressed within are strictly my own.
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This message for Jam. Jam, are you a UQ student with an ADD problem or simply offering support? If you are the former, contact me via email and I will make arrangements for you to get hold of me by phone. If you are the latter then, I would say to you that we have received a grant to do furthe research of the technology that our group has developed.(Being with UQ you probably can appreciate the seriousness that this sort of venture entails). We would be prepared to offer our knowledge to your Department at no cost. You can then report back to the support group yourself before slamming the door. (Yes we are Queenslanders and proud of it). Peter. — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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I am sure I posted it quite clearly in plain English, but "go away" means just that. I am not interested in your product or services. This is a support newsgroup, not a marketplace. If you continue, I will inform the university that you are using a support newsgroup to market your crap technology, and then their support might dwindle. Got that, sunshine?
This message for Jam. Jam, are you a UQ student with an ADD problem or simply offering support? If you are the former, contact me via email and I will make arrangements for you to get hold of me by phone. If you are the latter then, I would say to you that we have received a grant to do furthe research of the technology that our group has developed.(Being with UQ you probably can appreciate the seriousness that this sort of venture entails). We would be prepared to offer our knowledge to your Department at no cost. You can then report back to the support group yourself before slamming the door.
(Yes we are Queenslanders and proud of it). Peter.
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Understand your frustration. I’ll get to the point. We market a PC product for significantly reducing biological stress from screen based radiation. We have our own market and we do not need to advertise as most of our business is word of mouth. A number of our clients have ADD afflicted children and have remarked that their son/daughter has improved somewhat as a result of conditioning the AC power (to which the PC is connected). If you want more dialgogue, I am happy to participate. Cheers, Jim
In other words, ADHD is caused by "screen based radiation." And, happily, we are fortunate that YOU are here to, um…sell us the solution. How typical; you even got the "email me for details" part into it. Do you have any idea just how offensive and unwelcome this kind of solicitation is in this support newsgroup–and how inappropriate? Joe Parsons Keeper of the ASAD FAQ — I do not wish to receive *any* Unsolicited Commercial E-mail (UCE). I consider sending me such unwanted mail to be willful harassment. You *don’t* want to do that.
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I for one, would like to hear of some natural remedies, since I can’t afford to go to the doc, I would like a chance of treating myself – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Like what? Eucalyptus oil? Goanna grease? Vegemite? If you are here trying to flog off some scam involving natural remedies or new age behavioural modification, I think I had better tell you straight away – it doesn’t work, and it won’t work here at this group. On the other hand, if your input is genuinely productive and helpful then welcome Kinda tired of trolls and spammers at this ng now. Cheers jAm If anyone wants an Australian input on possible ways to alleviate the problem. Contact us by email. Cheers, Jim — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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I for one, would like to hear of some natural remedies, since I can’t afford to go to the doc, I would like a chance of treating myself
I guess it is easier for us, here in Canada, to make a choice that is right for us: doctor’s visits are paid for by the provincial health plans. We just have to pay the medication, and, since we use Generic Ritalin, it is really a lot cheaper than the natural remedies. And it becomes a lot more affordable when you consider that natural products cannot be claimed on our insurance plans, but prescription products can. In our case, though, that was not the decisive factor, it was the fact our 7 yo simply could not swallow the foul smeller, extremely big Effalex capsules, I even have problems with them. About self-treatment and self-medication: It is always hazardous to self-medicate, because you often have no way of knowing exactly what you’re doing and how to monitor the results. Also, with natural remedies, because they’re all considered supplements, not medicinal, they are not regulated and tested in the same way, therefore some adverse side effects, and there are some, are not even indicating on the packaging. Isn’t there any way you can consult a doctor, even it meant dealing with your GP? It’s just that the results with Natural Remedies are not very consistant and not very good. Some report marked improvements while the majority remark no improvements or very little improvement, not enough to warrant the expense. — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/canspec.html &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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See messages from BigRog in this discussion for a permanent solution with no downside or side effects? — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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In other words, ADHD is caused by "screen based radiation." And, happily, we are fortunate that YOU are here to, um…sell us the solution.
But…I don’t get it… I’ve been offline for 2 weeks now, and I’m not cured yet… God life sucks sometimes. :P *star* Disclaimer: This post is not a flame. Any resemblance to any flames, living or dead, is purely coincidental. No flames were harmed in the making of this post. Have a nice day. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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In other words, ADHD is caused by "screen based radiation." And, happily, we are fortunate that YOU are here to, um…sell us the solution. But…I don’t get it… I’ve been offline for 2 weeks now, and I’m not cured yet…
Is it that easy to test the null hypothesis? God life sucks sometimes. :P
– Martin G. Diehl I am what I am. All opinions expressed within are strictly my own.
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Like what? Eucalyptus oil? Goanna grease? Vegemite? If you are here trying to flog off some scam involving natural remedies or new age behavioural modification, I think I had better tell you straight away – it doesn’t work, and it won’t work here at this group. On the other hand, if your input is genuinely productive and helpful then welcome Kinda tired of trolls and spammers at this ng now. The snake oil I am using, has just had an entire immunology textbook chapter written on it
Er, you do know that a textbook can be written, and published, by *ANYONE* and that doesn’t mean it contains good information, right? You also know that *WE* knew that, right? …kinda.makes me sleep better knowing that
Whoops. I guess you didn’t know that. …… if and I say if you want to know anything about it, you will have to ask nicely, and I will tell you where to go, and I mean that in a nice way
Translation: you don’t want to expose your bullshit to public inspection; you want to try to snow people elsewhere. Not that this surprises anyone here. — Everything I needed to know in life I learned in Kindergarten. Like: Once you pull the pin on Mr. Hand Grenade, he is no longer your friend.
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Like what? Eucalyptus oil? Goanna grease? Vegemite? If you are here trying to flog off some scam involving natural remedies or new age behavioural modification, I think I had better tell you straight away – it doesn’t work, and it won’t work here at this group. On the other hand, if your input is genuinely productive and helpful then welcome Kinda tired of trolls and spammers at this ng now.
The snake oil I am using, has just had an entire immunology textbook chapter written on it…kinda.makes me sleep better knowing that…… if and I say if you want to know anything about it, you will have to ask nicely, and I will tell you where to go, and I mean that in a nice way…..Jim :) "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." — MAX PLANCK
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JMO, if the "snake oil" you’re using is (a) so great and (b) of no profit to you, then I am baffled as to why you don’t just state what it is you are using, instead of hiding behind web links and "gyconutrional" babble. — Later, Pam —"How can there be too many children? That is like saying there are too many flowers." Mother Teresa << – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Like what? Eucalyptus oil? Goanna grease? Vegemite? If you are here trying to flog off some scam involving natural remedies or new age behavioural modification, I think I had better tell you straight away – it doesn’t work, and it won’t work here at this group. On the other hand, if your input is genuinely productive and helpful then welcome Kinda tired of trolls and spammers at this ng now. The snake oil I am using, has just had an entire immunology textbook chapter written on it…kinda.makes me sleep better knowing that…… if and I say if you want to know anything about it, you will have to ask nicely, and I will tell you where to go, and I mean that in a nice way…..Jim :) "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." — MAX PLANCK
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IT SURE LOOKED LIKE EVERYONE WAS GETTING A HOLD ON WHAT THIS MEANS TO THEM IN THIS LIFE. I LIKED THAT ALOT…BUT BECAUSE OF MY SO VERY DARK IN-SECURITES (I SPEHT THE NIGHT IN THE PHYSC WARD, DEGRACED ANDY FAMILY MEMBERS ,…SSSSHHHH AUNT IT COMING…BUT BOY MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THE STAIS CO (I WAS ADMITTED) GUYS I JUST CAN’T JUMP THIS H(RRDLE. ANDY HELP??????? ((JGN))
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Andy, What set you off? Fargo
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -IT SURE LOOKED LIKE EVERYONE WAS GETTING A HOLD ON WHAT THIS MEANS TO THEM IN THIS LIFE. I LIKED THAT ALOT…BUT BECAUSE OF MY SO VERY DARK IN-SECURITES (I SPEHT THE NIGHT IN THE PHYSC WARD, DEGRACED ANDY FAMILY MEMBERS ,…SSSSHHHH AUNT IT COMING…BUT BOY MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THE STAIS CO (I WAS ADMITTED) GUYS I JUST CAN’T JUMP THIS H(RRDLE. ANDY HELP??????? ((JGN))
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HAS ANYONE HAD SUCCESS WITH GETTING THEIR CHILD OFF CYLERT. MY SON PRESENTLY TAKES 1 1/2 TABLET AND I AM CONSIDERING TAKING HIM OFF THE MEDICATION BECAUSE OF THE SIDE EFFECT THAT I THINK IT HAS SLOW DOWNED HIS GROWTH., BUT I KNOW THAT HE NEEDS IT TO FUNCTION. HE IS CURRENTLY TAKING THE PYGENOGENOL WITH GREAT HELP.. ANY PARENTS OUT THERE THAT HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS.. DEANN
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He doesn’t need Cylert to function – maybe just another psychostimulant with fewer sides. I am not current on the latest info on Cylert, but I know two things – liver enzymes go up during beginning phase of treatment (liver cells release enzymes when they die) and Cylert is my doctors absolute last choice of treatment as far as drugs in this category. You are going to have to wean him off very slowly, but your doc should be able to help there. Maybe when he’s down to a very low dose your doc might consider adding small dose of something else – it is worth a try in my opinion. I don’t know your opinion on kids taking Schedule II’s for ADD. Your doc may have his own views as well. If you want more info on ADD meds do a search on ADHD ADD psychostimulants and you should get some good hits and different points of view. I’ve walked a mile in your son’s shoes – I wish him well. If you see any current info on gene therapy research let me know – I promise CIBA and co. got their beady little eyes on the research. God Bless, GH
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What information do you have on gingko bilboa in treating ADD?
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What information do you have on gingko bilboa in treating ADD?
Aw, geez. It’s hard to say. I tried it for a few weeks and then kept forgetting to take it. I read in some health magazine that it might take a month or more to notice a sharper mind. I saw no change (maybe even MORE scatterbrained), but then I was taking discount-store stuff. The problem with treatments like this is, no one really knows how much to use or in what form. I’d love to see somebody do a few more studies. I think it would be great if it worked. I wish I could tell you if it did or not. I have a bunch of good quality ginkgo capsules now, but I have been too distracted to remember to take them. Joy
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(TReyes5804) writes: What information do you have on gingko bilboa in treating ADD?
It doesn’t. Mark Probert LI, New York I will honor the privacy of email, and expect the same.
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This is a long post: I have heard of schools that have emanded that parents place their children on Ritalin. Of course the school makes it seem like it is the childs fault and also the parent’s fault if they don’t agree to place their children on Ritalin I will allow others to comment on other parts of your post concerning ADD "facts" — which if I recall correctly, come from the same website (Breggin’s) (I believe that this guy is very anti-medication and has made big bucks promoting his books with this position.)
He is, he does promote his books, and he’s an incompetent liar. I once invented a drinking game where I had one shot of beer for every logical error Breggin made. This included fallacies, outright lies, exaggerations, and false implication tracing. I didn’t make it a third of the way through the book before I had to give it up. There are only about 27 shots of beer in a 40oz bottle. I believe the only reason I got to the 1/3 way point was that I wasn’t as sure of fallacies after I’d gotten more than halfway through the bottle so quickly. — "Everything I needed to know in life, I learned in kindergarten. Like: morality must exist beyond the purview of a deity if morality is to have a meaning beyond tyranny.
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