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Tat’s really good Brian, Have you tried group therapy.  I had my last session last night.  I found it very helpful. I’m not better yet but I will get there.  The stuff I have learnt is fantastic and I am now on the recovery road. In article <8a9p9i$jt…@nnrp1.deja.com>, Brian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<brimo…@my-deja.com> wrote: > In article > <06f57f7b.15616…@usw-ex0109-070.remarq.com>, >   kathy <kathyNOkaS…@computastore.com.invalid> wrote: > > Hi all – I don’t regularly post here, mainly cos I > am too > > busy and I only have access at work.  Just like the > rest of > > you lot, I suffer from social anxiety.  I have been > going > > to group therapy since January and my last session > is next > > week.  There is hope for SPics cos I consider myself > 50% > > better.  I’ve noticed that I now have a more positive > > outlook on life and I have noticed how I am now > having more > > pleasant thoughts.  So, please do not post any more > > negative posts about CBT, especially if you have not > tried > > it.  IT WORKS! > I just started CBT in January, and the initial results > look good.  A > lot of work to go, but I am hopeful that the long-term > effects will be > worth it. > > Anyway, the main thing I have wanted to do in the > past 5/6 > > years is to go out on weekend nights and have a good > dance > > at a club.  I also found it hard to relate to people > on a > > 1/1 basis.  This can still be difficult but at least > I > > don’t avoid those situations as I’ve got my coping > skills > > to help me overcome that problem. > > I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you > guys. > > Everyone is different.  A girl in my group has no > problem > > going to a club.  She has loads of friends whereas > another > > girl has painful panic attacks when meeting people > even tho > > I see her as a very sociable girl with loads of > friends. > I could go to a club, but I’m usually with my wife and > cling to her. > Before we were together, I was just a teenager, and I > could go to a > school dance or a "teen night" at a club, but I’d keep > to myself and > wouldn’t mingle much.  Mingling is next to impossible > for me in those > situations.  I only have a few friends, and making new > friends is > rather difficult.  My SP is at its worst in more > formal type > situations, however. > Brian > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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In article <06f57f7b.15616…@usw-ex0109-070.remarq.com>,   kathy <kathyNOkaS…@computastore.com.invalid> wrote: > I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you guys. > Everyone is different.  A girl in my group has no problem > going to a club.  She has loads of friends whereas another > girl has painful panic attacks when meeting people even tho > I see her as a very sociable girl with loads of friends.

Kathy, Here are many ways that my social phobia affects me: Can’t sing or dance in public Can’t get promotions at work Can’t hold a conversation longer than a minute with any coworkers Can’t socialize with my spouse’s friends Can’t say anything but "this weather is great" during conversations Can’t develop any close relationships with neighbors Can’t do anything more than sit in front of the computer Can’t encourage my children to participate in social activities Can’t swim in a public pool Can’t get in touch with my feelings Can’t be assertive Can’t yell and scream at sporting events Can’t go to a concert (even though I love music) Can’t manage my son’s baseball team (I am trying to find a way to get out of it) Can’t call my oldest daughter who lives out of state Can’t go to a social event without having a drink Can’t get myself away from my desk at work Can’t join a health club Can’t run with the guys at work during lunch Can’t call my grandmother who told me that she would never see me again after I moved Can’t call a psychiatrist to make an appointment for this problem This list could go on and on.  I really hate my life the way it is.  I have been reading a book called "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" but I just cannot put the suggestions into action.  I want to seek help but I find myself being tied up with everything that supports this problem like working late hours and spending all night on the computer.  And, now, I have convinced myself that the only way to get cured is to make sure that the therapist prescribes an anti-depression drug. Wow, it felt good to get this off my chest.  Thanks for posting this thread. The Jackyl Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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        No I havent sought treatment yet but I am begining to belive that might be the only way.                                                             Earnest

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Try to get it as soon as possible >        No I havent sought treatment yet but I am begining to belive that >might be the only way. >                                                            Earnest

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Kathy,     I could go on forever about how SP disables me, but to put it simply:  Social phobia disables my dreams. Those dreams include having a social life, a relationship, and a strong career. Andrew Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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Yeah, tell me about it.  Feeling like I’m betraying myself all the time by not taking social opportunities sucks.  I know that there is a well-adjusted person in there, but on the surface, these avoidant behaviors stop me from saying what I think, and appearing unconfident does not exactly help in terms of the workplace either.  I and my work get overlooked a lot, just because I don’t assert myself.  And the people I’d like to make friends with at work have no idea that I want to make friends … I think they think I’m stuck-up. Kate In article <8a6ha4$7i…@nnrp1.deja.com>,   lhamm…@my-deja.com wrote: > Kathy, >     I could go on forever about how SP disables me, but to > put it simply:  Social phobia disables my dreams. > Those dreams include having a social life, a relationship, > and a strong career. > Andrew > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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God, do I relate to this… >Actually, the symptoms ARE picked up by normies. Otherwise, it would be >possible to ignore bullies and not have them amplify their efforts until >you can no longer ignore them. CBT can not fix this.

Everywhere you go, you find a small minority of people (5% or so) who deal with their own internal stresses and deficits by hurting other people.  Individuals like this are ALWAYS looking for victims, and are often quite shrewd at picking them out. Hunter Thompson talks about this at one point in his original bestseller, "Hells Angels".  And don’t ever open "The Painted Bird" by the late Jerzy Kozinski unless you’re ready for it; human beings’ relentless cruelty to others is the major theme of the book.  It’s brilliant, but really depressing… Eradan * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables >you guys. Everyone is different. A girl in my >group has no problem going to a club. She >has loads of friends whereas another girl has >painful panic attacks when meeting people >even tho I see her as a very sociable girl with >loads of friends.

    I have no problem being the center of attention, as long as the attention is on something I do *extremely well*. I am an excellent dancer, and have been told this by many people, for many years, so getting up on stage at dance clubs and "putting on a show" is no problem –because I feel very confident that people are going to be impressed. OTOH, when I jump off stage and people approach me and compliment me and try to initiate conversation  –I squeak out a humble "thank you" and run in the opposite direction. My friends can’t understand how someone who can dance on a stage in front of hundreds of strangers for hours on end, is incapable of conducting a simple conversation. Like so many others, they think SP is "all in my head". Well DUH!

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When I first started group therapy, we compared ourselves with each other and it was like ‘there’s nothing wrong with her/him’ blah blah blah.  SP effects each of us in different ways.  We had to do work on the video which I didn’t find stressful the first time cos I just had to read from a book but the second time I took a full blown panic attack cos I had to have a conversation with another person from the group on camera off the top of my head.  As you can imagine I didn’t have anything prepared and I felt so stupid!  So that’s where I have to work on, 1-1 conversations and relationships.  Have you sought any treatment for your social phobia? In article <1017-38C760B1-17@storefull- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -247.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, le_bel_…@webtv.net wrote: > >I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables > >you guys. Everyone is different. A girl in my > >group has no problem going to a club. She > >has loads of friends whereas another girl has > >painful panic attacks when meeting people > >even tho I see her as a very sociable girl with > >loads of friends. >     I have no problem being the center of attention, > as long as the > attention is on something I do *extremely well*. I am > an excellent > dancer, and have been told this by many people, for > many years, so > getting up on stage at dance clubs and "putting on a > show" is no problem > –because I feel very confident that people are going > to be impressed. > OTOH, when I jump off stage and people approach me and > compliment me and > try to initiate conversation  –I squeak out a humble > "thank you" and > run in the opposite direction. > My friends can’t understand how someone who can dance > on a stage in > front of hundreds of strangers for hours on end, is > incapable of > conducting a simple conversation. Like so many others, > they think SP is > "all in my head". > Well DUH!

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confusion_h…@my-deja.com wrote in message <8a6m4r$bg…@nnrp1.deja.com>… >  lhamm…@my-deja.com wrote: >> Kathy, >>     I could go on forever about how SP disables me, but to >> put it simply:  Social phobia disables my dreams.

   I’ve been trying to look closely at what actually happens. From what I can tell it’s simple; we forget to think. That kind of thinking we do in our head, such as counting change in your head or reading without moving your lips; well, we forget to think. Our fight or flight response has a hair trigger and we forget to think. Because we don’t know we are forgetting to think we don’t know what is happening other than we are helpless and floundering. It might be worth it for you to try and remember to think next time you feel a fight or flight response coming on. Let me know how it goes.

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In article <06f57f7b.15616…@usw-ex0109-070.remarq.com>,   kathy <kathyNOkaS…@computastore.com.invalid> wrote: > Hi all – I don’t regularly post here, mainly cos I am too > busy and I only have access at work.  Just like the rest of > you lot, I suffer from social anxiety.  I have been going > to group therapy since January and my last session is next > week.  There is hope for SPics cos I consider myself 50% > better.  I’ve noticed that I now have a more positive > outlook on life and I have noticed how I am now having more > pleasant thoughts.  So, please do not post any more > negative posts about CBT, especially if you have not tried > it.  IT WORKS!

I just started CBT in January, and the initial results look good.  A lot of work to go, but I am hopeful that the long-term effects will be worth it. > Anyway, the main thing I have wanted to do in the past 5/6 > years is to go out on weekend nights and have a good dance > at a club.  I also found it hard to relate to people on a > 1/1 basis.  This can still be difficult but at least I > don’t avoid those situations as I’ve got my coping skills > to help me overcome that problem. > I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you guys. > Everyone is different.  A girl in my group has no problem > going to a club.  She has loads of friends whereas another > girl has painful panic attacks when meeting people even tho > I see her as a very sociable girl with loads of friends.

I could go to a club, but I’m usually with my wife and cling to her. Before we were together, I was just a teenager, and I could go to a school dance or a "teen night" at a club, but I’d keep to myself and wouldn’t mingle much.  Mingling is next to impossible for me in those situations.  I only have a few friends, and making new friends is rather difficult.  My SP is at its worst in more formal type situations, however. Brian Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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Doug <g…@execpc.com> wrote:

: I’ll give you just one example.  BV lives in Chicago and I live near : Madison, Wi.  At my invitation, he drove 150 miles for an appointment : with my doc (who I think is pretty good with sp and other anxiety : problems).  BV and I both visited the doc together and spent a : considerable amount of time discussing his sp and how to treat it.  He : was prescribed Xanax, Paxil and a beta blocker (can’t recall the name : of the beta blocker) all of which he took as prescribed. : It took considerable courage and determination on BV’s part to : contact me and agree to the appointment.   Since you have sp too, you : know how much anticipatory anxiety he went through during the days he : waited for the appointment.  And that doesn’t even come close to the : anxiety he experienced and dealt with while he was actually here. : His actions strike me as a direct confrontation of his sp;  they most : certainly were not indicative of avoidant behavior. This excellent example illustrates the lengths I have been willing to go to try to fix my SP. It’s not every day that one would risk life and limb to fly 160 miles to seek help. This shows that I’ll stop at nearly nothing to try to get my SP fixed. Recently, I saw in a newspaper about a Chicagoan who flies the SAME route EVERY DAY to get treatment for his cancer. When I read the article, I was shocked but I fully understood his perseverence sufficient to fly his SUV on the same route I flew to see you. And to think I was brave enough to fly the distance in a raggedy unreliable car that could break down at any time. And this historic flight pales in comparison to either the mission to Texas or if that proves impossible, self-surgery. If I have to put wings on my car and do a Charles Lindbergh to fly to Finland to get ETS’d, so be it. I’ll be the first to cross the Atlantic in a flying car. That shouter gravely underestimates the lengths I’m willing to go to get my SP fixed. — CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in your reply! 152680  First Law of Economics: You can’t sell product to people without money. 4968238 bytes of spam mail deleted.           http://www.wwa.com/~nospam/

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        Well this is my first post so since the question was asked I will answer. I have never been diagnosed with SP but I am pretty sure myself that I suffer from it. I guess the main thing for me is my strong desire to avoid all social contact period. I work full time in the public and have for about four years and it has only gotten a little better since then. I have friends who I feel comfortable around but to be honest they aren’t the most social people either. I pretty much come home from work…watch TV or play around on the computer for a while and that’s pretty much it.         I don’t like to go out anywhere except when I have to and only whenever I have to. I don’t relate to people well either. I don’t have anything in common them. Seems so easy sometimes to be like everyone else and actually enjoy getting out and doing things but I just cant do it. I have thought of counseling but I don’t know what to expect when I go. I kind of always just figured I was just shy but I found out its worse than that. As far as relationships go well that’s been a big disappointment. Being SP for me means not having the nerve to ask someone out too so that doesn’t help my social life either. Well I hope I haven’t bored anyone.                                                             Earnest

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Hey Earnest- welcome! I understand your problems.  Many of us here are going through the same thing. Are you seeking treatment?  I highly recommend you see a psychiatrist for therapy and meds. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->        Well this is my first post so since the question was asked I will >answer. I have never been diagnosed with SP but I am pretty sure myself that >I suffer from it. I guess the main thing for me is my strong desire to avoid >all social contact period. I work full time in the public and have for about >four years and it has only gotten a little better since then. I have friends >who I feel comfortable around but to be honest they aren’t the most social >people either. I pretty much come home from work…watch TV or play around >on the computer for a while and that’s pretty much it. >        I don’t like to go out anywhere except when I have to and only >whenever I have to. I don’t relate to people well either. I don’t have >anything in common them. Seems so easy sometimes to be like everyone else >and actually enjoy getting out and doing things but I just cant do it. I >have thought of counseling but I don’t know what to expect when I go. I kind >of always just figured I was just shy but I found out its worse than that. >As far as relationships go well that’s been a big disappointment. Being SP >for me means not having the nerve to ask someone out too so that doesn’t >help my social life either. Well I hope I haven’t bored anyone. >                                                            Earnest

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Try to rate your anxiety on a scale of 1-10.  This will help if you start using the coping skills for social anxiety.  eg – my anxiety now is a 4, that means I can handle it but I’m gonna have to focus on something else now before my anxiety gets outta control.  If my anxiety reaches a 6, it will be far to late to do anything to reduce my anxiety.  If I reach 10, I will have a full blown panic attack.  I hope you understand this. In article <8a9f55$t6…@news.datacruz.com>, "league" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<lea…@datacruz.com> wrote: > confusion_h…@my-deja.com wrote in message > <8a6m4r$bg…@nnrp1.deja.com>… > >  lhamm…@my-deja.com wrote: > >> Kathy, > >>     I could go on forever about how SP disables me, > but to > >> put it simply:  Social phobia disables my dreams. >    I’ve been trying to look closely at what actually > happens. From what I > can tell it’s simple; we forget to think. That kind of > thinking we do in our > head, such as counting change in your head or reading > without moving your > lips; well, we forget to think. Our fight or flight > response has a hair > trigger and we forget to think. Because we don’t know > we are forgetting to > think we don’t know what is happening other than we > are helpless and > floundering. It might be worth it for you to try and > remember to think next > time you feel a fight or flight response coming on. > Let me know how it goes.

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kathy <KATHYNOKAS…@COMPUTASTORE.COM.invalid> wrote:

: WHAT HAVE YOU TRIED BLOODY VIKING.  DO U EVEN READ BOOKS TO : TRY AND OVERCOME YOUR PROBLEM.  THIS SOUNDS REALLY AWFUL, : BUT WHEN ARE YOU GONNA REALISE THAT YOU’RE NOT GONNA GET : BETTER BY AVOIDING SITUATIONS.  I DO FEEL FOR U COS U : REALLY SOUND LIKE YOU’VE GIVEN UP AND U’VE JUST COME TO : EXCEPT THAT U’RE NOT GETTIN BETTER.  THERE IS A WAY OUT : MATE, YOU’VE JUST GOTTA FIND IT AND NEVER GIVE UP.  IF U DO : SOMETHING AND U FEEL THAT U’VE MESSED UP, DO U NEVER ASK : YOURSELF WHY U FELT THIS WAY? Yeah, there’s a way out all right. Now, about giving up. At what point do you say to yourself that an endeavour is futile? Trying to tackle SP without meds and/or ETS is _IMPOSSIBLE_. Just as impossible as attaining lightspeed in your car. How many times do you have to jump up to realise you will _NEVER_ do a slam-dunk? At some point you have to stare futility in the face and realise fitility is futility. How many times do you have to put a brick on the accellerator of a car before you realise you can _NEVER_ attain lightspeed? And how many times do you have to try bullshite self-help before you realise you will _NEVER_ overcome SP by those methods? — CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in your reply! 152680  First Law of Economics: You can’t sell product to people without money. 4968238 bytes of spam mail deleted.           http://www.wwa.com/~nospam/

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 02:27:05 -0800, kathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<KATHYNOKAS…@COMPUTASTORE.COM.invalid> wrote: >HEY YA BLOODY VIKING – I’VE BEEN READING A LOT OF POSTS >FROM YOU.  IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME REALISING THAT IT ISN’T >EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HAS THE PROB.  IT’S ALL IN YER HEAD. >WE DON’T LIKE FEELING LIKE WE’RE THE CENTRE OF ATTENTION >BUT YET WE MAKE OURSELVES THE CENTRE OF ATTENTION. >WHAT HAVE YOU TRIED BLOODY VIKING.  DO U EVEN READ BOOKS TO >TRY AND OVERCOME YOUR PROBLEM.  THIS SOUNDS REALLY AWFUL, >BUT WHEN ARE YOU GONNA REALISE THAT YOU’RE NOT GONNA GET >BETTER BY AVOIDING SITUATIONS.  I DO FEEL FOR U COS U >REALLY SOUND LIKE YOU’VE GIVEN UP AND U’VE JUST COME TO >EXCEPT THAT U’RE NOT GETTIN BETTER.  THERE IS A WAY OUT >MATE, YOU’VE JUST GOTTA FIND IT AND NEVER GIVE UP.  IF U DO >SOMETHING AND U FEEL THAT U’VE MESSED UP, DO U NEVER ASK >YOURSELF WHY U FELT THIS WAY? >LOOK, THIS IS ALL I’M GONNA SAY,  IT BE NICE IF U STARTED >TAKING THE ADVICE POSTED ON THIS NG. >In article <WKOv4.357$181….@ord-read.news.verio.net>, >Bloody Viking <nos…@miles.wwa.com> wrote: >> kathy <KATHYNOKAS…@COMPUTASTORE.COM.invalid> wrote: >> : yeah, you’re definately sp, but everyone else has >> those >> : symtoms too.  You probably don’t realise it, but >> those >> : symtoms are often not picked up by the normals. >> Anyway >> Actually, the symptoms ARE picked up by normies. >> Otherwise, it would be >> possible to ignore bullies and not have them amplify >> their efforts until >> you can no longer ignore them. CBT can not fix this. >> — >> CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in >> your reply! 152680 >>  First Law of Economics: You can’t sell product to >> people without money. >> 4968238 bytes of spam mail deleted. >> http://www.wwa.com/~nospam/ >* Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

I don’t think you’re being fair to Blooddy Viking.  If you’d taken the time to get to know BV a little better, you’d know that he’s made substantial effort to overcome his sp. I’ll give you just one example.  BV lives in Chicago and I live near Madison, Wi.  At my invitation, he drove 150 miles for an appointment with my doc (who I think is pretty good with sp and other anxiety problems).  BV and I both visited the doc together and spent a considerable amount of time discussing his sp and how to treat it.  He was prescribed Xanax, Paxil and a beta blocker (can’t recall the name of the beta blocker) all of which he took as prescribed. It took considerable courage and determination on BV’s part to contact me and agree to the appointment.   Since you have sp too, you know how much anticipatory anxiety he went through during the days he waited for the appointment.  And that doesn’t even come close to the anxiety he experienced and dealt with while he was actually here. His actions strike me as a direct confrontation of his sp;  they most certainly were not indicative of avoidant behavior. Doug

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kathy <KATHYNOKAS…@COMPUTASTORE.COM.invalid> wrote:

: yeah, you’re definately sp, but everyone else has those : symtoms too.  You probably don’t realise it, but those : symtoms are often not picked up by the normals.  Anyway Actually, the symptoms ARE picked up by normies. Otherwise, it would be possible to ignore bullies and not have them amplify their efforts until you can no longer ignore them. CBT can not fix this. — CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in your reply! 152680  First Law of Economics: You can’t sell product to people without money. 4968238 bytes of spam mail deleted.           http://www.wwa.com/~nospam/

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HEY YA BLOODY VIKING – I’VE BEEN READING A LOT OF POSTS FROM YOU.  IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME REALISING THAT IT ISN’T EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HAS THE PROB.  IT’S ALL IN YER HEAD. WE DON’T LIKE FEELING LIKE WE’RE THE CENTRE OF ATTENTION BUT YET WE MAKE OURSELVES THE CENTRE OF ATTENTION. WHAT HAVE YOU TRIED BLOODY VIKING.  DO U EVEN READ BOOKS TO TRY AND OVERCOME YOUR PROBLEM.  THIS SOUNDS REALLY AWFUL, BUT WHEN ARE YOU GONNA REALISE THAT YOU’RE NOT GONNA GET BETTER BY AVOIDING SITUATIONS.  I DO FEEL FOR U COS U REALLY SOUND LIKE YOU’VE GIVEN UP AND U’VE JUST COME TO EXCEPT THAT U’RE NOT GETTIN BETTER.  THERE IS A WAY OUT MATE, YOU’VE JUST GOTTA FIND IT AND NEVER GIVE UP.  IF U DO SOMETHING AND U FEEL THAT U’VE MESSED UP, DO U NEVER ASK YOURSELF WHY U FELT THIS WAY? LOOK, THIS IS ALL I’M GONNA SAY,  IT BE NICE IF U STARTED TAKING THE ADVICE POSTED ON THIS NG. In article <WKOv4.357$181….@ord-read.news.verio.net>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bloody Viking <nos…@miles.wwa.com> wrote: > kathy <KATHYNOKAS…@COMPUTASTORE.COM.invalid> wrote: > : yeah, you’re definately sp, but everyone else has > those > : symtoms too.  You probably don’t realise it, but > those > : symtoms are often not picked up by the normals. > Anyway > Actually, the symptoms ARE picked up by normies. > Otherwise, it would be > possible to ignore bullies and not have them amplify > their efforts until > you can no longer ignore them. CBT can not fix this. > — > CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in > your reply! 152680 >  First Law of Economics: You can’t sell product to > people without money. > 4968238 bytes of spam mail deleted. > http://www.wwa.com/~nospam/

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kathy <kathyNOkaS…@computastore.com.invalid> wrote:

: I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you guys. For one, SP makes it impossible to fend off bullying by others. It makes escaping the post office impossible due to job interviews. And that’s just for starters. — CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in your reply! 152680  First Law of Economics: You can’t sell product to people without money. 4968238 bytes of spam mail deleted.           http://www.wwa.com/~nospam/

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Dear Kathy, here’s a list: It’s like my head is full of smoke. I don’t remember names. I don’t remember faces. My hands tremble if I do some work. I can’t remember what people writes in front of me. I can’t urinate in open public bathroom (for males) My muscles are painfully tense. My throat is tense. I feel awkward. In face there’s an expression of fear. People get sick of me very soon. These are the most evident. Davide

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yeah, you’re definately sp, but everyone else has those symtoms too.  You probably don’t realise it, but those symtoms are often not picked up by the normals.  Anyway mate, get yourself somes CBT.  Meds don’t cure by themselves. In article <38bf274c.690…@news.nettuno.it>, a…@a.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Davide) wrote: > Dear Kathy, > here’s a list: > It’s like my head is full of smoke. > I don’t remember names. > I don’t remember faces. > My hands tremble if I do some work. > I can’t remember what people writes in front of me. > I can’t urinate in open public bathroom (for males) > My muscles are painfully tense. > My throat is tense. > I feel awkward. > In face there’s an expression of fear. > People get sick of me very soon. > These are the most evident. > Davide

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Mainly in being myself around people.  It would be too difficult to be around them.  Even if I endured it, I would feel really bad. So it affected my social life mainly. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi all – I don’t regularly post here, mainly cos I am too >busy and I only have access at work.  Just like the rest of >you lot, I suffer from social anxiety.  I have been going >to group therapy since January and my last session is next >week.  There is hope for SPics cos I consider myself 50% >better.  I’ve noticed that I now have a more positive >outlook on life and I have noticed how I am now having more >pleasant thoughts.  So, please do not post any more >negative posts about CBT, especially if you have not tried >it.  IT WORKS! >Anyway, the main thing I have wanted to do in the past 5/6 >years is to go out on weekend nights and have a good dance >at a club.  I also found it hard to relate to people on a >1/1 basis.  This can still be difficult but at least I >don’t avoid those situations as I’ve got my coping skills >to help me overcome that problem. >I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you guys. >Everyone is different.  A girl in my group has no problem >going to a club.  She has loads of friends whereas another >girl has painful panic attacks when meeting people even tho >I see her as a very sociable girl with loads of friends. >* Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find >related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is >Beautiful ></PRE></HTML>

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Being focused on makes me very uncomfortable, so I have lots of trouble contributing to group discussions even when I have something to add.  I would really love to have a job so I could earn money for myself so I can buy some more clothes! but of course the thought of having to do an interview and having to deal with customers worries me… I have trouble making friends because I don’t talk to people if I don’t have to and when I am approached by a friendly person I tend to act indifferent and reserved…. The friends I have now were people who approached me and didn’t leave me alone even when I behaved as aloof as I possibly could – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you guys. >Everyone is different.  A girl in my group has no problem >going to a club.  She has loads of friends whereas another >girl has painful panic attacks when meeting people even tho >I see her as a very sociable girl with loads of friends.

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Hi all – I don’t regularly post here, mainly cos I am too busy and I only have access at work.  Just like the rest of you lot, I suffer from social anxiety.  I have been going to group therapy since January and my last session is next week.  There is hope for SPics cos I consider myself 50% better.  I’ve noticed that I now have a more positive outlook on life and I have noticed how I am now having more pleasant thoughts.  So, please do not post any more negative posts about CBT, especially if you have not tried it.  IT WORKS! Anyway, the main thing I have wanted to do in the past 5/6 years is to go out on weekend nights and have a good dance at a club.  I also found it hard to relate to people on a 1/1 basis.  This can still be difficult but at least I don’t avoid those situations as I’ve got my coping skills to help me overcome that problem. I’m just curious to see how SP mainly disables you guys. Everyone is different.  A girl in my group has no problem going to a club.  She has loads of friends whereas another girl has painful panic attacks when meeting people even tho I see her as a very sociable girl with loads of friends. * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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